They are growing pretty well under these LEDs. 450 watts total in a 3x3 foot area. Thug roze had to be mainlined to keep small and also the motor punch. Motor punch is getting frosty quicker than the other ladys. They have some nute burn so will be running plain ph water with fish shit next feed and every other feed after that with just the phd water. Supperrr excited for this grow!! Stay tuned!!