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Just coming into the 8th week now so not too long left to go, the smell is really starting to get quite pungent with these but to be fair they have been sticking since they were about 3 weeks old, the really leggy on is a bit airy and not growing as much bud in comparison to the others but I believe that's because not getting light like the others given the position of everything, so I obviously need to upgrade my tent size! The other 3 though seem to be coming along quite nicely still. And the training really does make a difference, it's harder to tell whilst everything is on the tent but when I pull them out the ones that had really miner lst are pretty wide, and the one with out training is the same hight almost but it's not as wide and has less bud sights obviously, normally I would be fighting some deficiencies by now but everything is looking nice and healthy so I'm made up with them so far