After what i thought would be the end of these ladies to start from scratch , they go and surprise me by settling down into the dwcr. new growth slowly showing signs and definate size increase happening. very relieved here now and now have some new seedlings for the empty pots. . the buddha and auto have been getting on with business while the drama happened around them. i think i over watered the pinaple and has left her looking very grumpy but getting better too. The manifdling on the Buddha is going well and she took the supercropping well too. she will be a good yielder i think. onward and upward people. peace