Both are starting flush, second one is a few days behind the first. Flush using botanicare clearex, I had lowered ppms consistently over the past week and a half by hand watering using pure blend pro bloom, AN Nirvana, cal mag, 5 ml/gal terpinator. I do not flush with terpinator and I don't think your supposed to it's not organic, maybe I'm wrong but I don't think it's worth the risk it can't be good to smoke chemicals. 2 or 3 flushes with clearex and 1 with plain ph 5.9 R/O water then bud wash n chop