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Week 6
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Troy_McClure Troy_McClure
5 years ago
Dec. 9 - focuses for the week - Defoliation - watering until run-off - start feeding nutes - start growing into SCROG - balance soil pH - Plant 1: leaves curling inward, older leaves getting discoloured, not as bad as plant 2, most of those older leaves tips now point downward, and don’t appear to be curling inward - Plant 2: leaves curling inward, older leaves getting discoloured, looks like they are getting a little splotchy and losing their nice green healthy colour for a bit of a yellow-y green faded, most of those older leaves tips now point downward, and don’t appear to be curling inward - LST removed for now - I will give each plant 5.5L of water, with 40mL of Big Bloom nutes over the course of 30 min (1L note water given 5 times). The Soil ph for plant 1 is 7.5 and plant 2 soil ph is 7 Thus, the waters pH is at 6.5 to balance it all out hopefully. - 1) take soil readings Plant 1 pre water/feed - soil ph: 7.5 - soil moisture: 2.5 - Lift: light Plant 2 pre water/feed - soil ph: 7 - soil moisture: 4 - Lift: medium - 2) prepare water/feed - get 11.5L of water in bucket - take water readings - add in 90mL of Big Bloom - take water readings - ph:7.65 - mix thoroughly via pond pump - take water readings and add white vinegar to drop ph down to 6.5 Water (11.5) + 90ml Big Bloom - ph: 7.65 - White vinegar 3ml + pond pump mix 1 min - Ph: 7.3 - Repeat - Ph: 7.00 - Repeat - 6.65 - 3) water over course of 30 min - (11.5 total in bucket)water 1L each, take 5 min off - 5x times - (9.5) 1L each - 5 min break - (7.5) 1L each - 5 min break - (4.5) 1.5L each - 5 min break - Still no run off at all - (2.5) 1L each - 5 min break - Run-off has finally made its way into plant2 saucer pan underneath, about 1 inch high - 1L for plant 1 as it just now began run-off, about half an inch high - Tested the bucket of leftover nute water and it reads ph=6.9 - 5 min break - 0.5 L for each plant - Leftover bucket water = Ph: 6.8 - 4) take run-off readings - plant 1 water meter ph: 6.2 - plant 2 water meter ph: 4.8 - 5) take soil readings - Plant 1 post water/feed - soil ph: 5.6 - Plant 2 post water/feed - soil ph:5 - 6) remove excess run-off water with shop vac Dec. 10 - take soil ph readings - plant 1 ph: - 6.3 - plant 2 ph: - 5.2 - Defoliate - I only took the first set of leaves on the soil at the bottom of both plants and the cotyledons that had already died on both plants - Fans on high trying to get good airflow under the bushyness - I can often find a bit of water or wet droplets in certain places underneath so i want better airflow and I don’t want mould or other problems - plant 1: - Ph: 5.8 - Plant 2: - Ph: 6.6 Dec. 11 - plant 1: - Ph: 6.8 - Plant 2: - Ph: 6.0 - Older leaves’ stalks turning red is an issue and the newer growth being light green is an issue. - I think it will be best to start feeding now, the soil is very moist still, just damp to the first knuckle but it won’t need water for a few days, when it does I will feed 1 gallon of water each with big bloom and grow big - plant 2 - Ph: 6.9 - Plant 1: - Ph: 6.8 Dec. 12 - plant 2 - Ph: 6.0 - Plant 1: - Ph: 6.9 Dec. 13 - plant 1 - Ph: 6.9 - Plant 2 - Ph: 6.8 - Plants look really good and are making their recovery nicely - Stems are very strong and getting thicker - There is some scars from the twist ties but I have been very careful with them, I don’t think they will get cut too much, or choked, but I will make sure the fan doesn’t cause any damage - LST was done and i got a better understanding of how I want to shape it and space it out - I think week 8 or 9 will be the last week before flower - I will put the screen up next week, my leg is in a cast so tent maintenance is very hard and the screen is 4x4 so it will be annoying, I might consider just holding off until I’m out of the cast. - Trying to lower the humidity into the 50’s - Fans are on higher settings now, 8, and the tent is down a few degrees, at 69-74 during peak lights - One tip of plant 2 has a burn, could have just been water but I have too much nutes last time to over compensate for the deficient so it could also be a little of that Dec. 14 - ph of both plants is steady, just below 7 so in the 6.8-6.9 region - I take the soil pH with the rods deep in the soil and between the pot and the main stalk - Likely the reason why the fluctuations seemed so weird, and I’m guessing the sensor for the run-off was hitting dirt or something and was not able to be accurate but the ph run off under 5 seems super weird - the bottom leaves on plant 2 are very dead but their stems have recovered and overall the plant seems healthy just slow and very sensitive when compared to plant 1, its possible its a genetics thing, since the treatment has been 100% identical essentially Dec. 15 - 55% rh goal, no more than 60, no less than 40 - Plants getting light green new growth again, plant 2s lower leaves are shriveled and dead from previous nute shortage - Fans are on an auto timer for 2-8 - Plant q - Ph: 7.5 - 3.7 moist - Plant 2 - PH: 7.5 - 8 wet - Plant should be fed as it needs nutes based on the leaves continuing to start to die off, the new light green growth and the dry feel - I want to start giving them nutes every other watering but I’ll need to give them nutes again today but without a lot of water if I can feeding - nutes: - big bloom - 10ml / gal (3.8L) - grow big - 10ml / gal (3.8L) - watering: - 1 gal (3.8L) each - 2gal (7.6L) tap water ph: before adding nutes - ph: 8.17 - 2gal (7.6L) water with pump and 20ml big bloom - ph: 8.24 - 2gal (7.6L) water with 20ml big bloom and 20ml grow big - ph: 6.9 - add 3ml of white vinegar - ph: 6.81 - Add 3ml of white vinegar - ph: 6.55 - Add 3ml of white vinegar - ph: 6.37 - with 12ml of white vinegar total + 20ml big bloom + 20 ml Grow big - ph: 6.17 - after 2L given to plants: - ph: 6.24 - 1L of note water ph’d at 6.17 given to both plants - 5 min break - ph:6.24 - another 1L - 5 min - ph: 6.3 - another 1L - 5 min - ph: 6.35 - another 1L - 5 min - ph: 6.35 - another 1L - 5 min - ph: 6.35 - both plants given 1 gal each of ph: 6.17 water with 10 ml of big bloom and 10ml of grow big - Plants look like they need it and will respond very well, plant 2 looks like I will do lots of defoliation on it and I think I will look to stop touching them after one more round of defoliation in a couple days when they perk up from the feed, I will then leave them for 2 full weeks of veg and finish at week 9 so that week 10 is the first week of flower at 12/12 - I plan on feeding 1-2 times a week with the second feed going until run-off - I will have them grow up and then place the Scrog net over them at the start of week 8 so they will have a good few weeks to grow into it - My ankle and foot is in a cast so I can’t move around well so delaying the screen is no problem for me Specifications:😎👇 Seeds: - 2x White Widow feminized seeds from Crop King Seed Tent: - 4x4x6 Mammoth Grow tent LED: - 2x Spider Farmer SF1000 LED for veg - 4x Spider Farmer SF1000 LED for flower Pots: - 2x 0.5 L starter pots - 2x 5 gal smart pots after transplant Soil: - Pro-mix containing mycorrhizae and perlite, used for starter pots and mixed at roughly 1:3 ratio with Ocean Forest - Fox Farm Ocean Forest soil, used in the 5 gallon pots and mixed with roughly 3:1 ratio with pro-mix - note: pro mix was mixed thoroughly with ocean forest in the 5 gal pot, then pro-mix was used on the top layer, in and around where the transplant will be to help the early veg stage avoid getting too "hot" via nutrients. Nutrients: - Fox Farm Big Bloom - Fox Farm Big Grow - Fox Farm Tiger Bloom Inline Fans: - AC Infinity CLOUDLINE T6 6" (exhaust) - AC infinity CLOUDLINE S6 6" (active intake) - AC infinity 6" ducting Mini fans: - 2x Wind Devil 6" fans Carbon Filter: - 2x iPower Carbon Filter on both inline fans - note: carbon filter on intake fan as basement had mold issues in furnace room far removed but same floor, some mold issue in other room, cat litter in basement, thus, avoiding all risks and sleeping sound at night :) all mold was killed, scrubbed, cleaned, sprayed, painted, and sprayed again before setting up. Humidifier: - TaoTronics Cool Mist Humidifier Timers: - 2x VIVOSUN dual Digital Timer
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Grow Questions
Troy_McClure
Troy_McClurestarted grow question 5 years ago
My grow tent drops down to 65 (75-80 with the fan on low settings during 16 hour light cycles) during the off 8 hours of the light cycle, I would like to establish a more consistent temperature, or at least ideally keep the grow tent closer to 70 while the lights are off. How?
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Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimaranswered grow question 5 years ago
hi, iam using small Infrared heater with thermostate to keep the Temps around 70 degree. Those little ones are doing great. Ive choosen one with only 300 watts to save my electricity bill. And it wents on if temperatures are dropping. ........But you can start with extern conditions.. do you have aplace that is wamer=? can you " isolate" the Tent=?for outside with styropor// cardboard//And last solution is giving her external heat from a heater...
Troy_McClure
Troy_McClurestarted grow question 5 years ago
What should I do about the old leaves? likely ph imbalance and/or nute deficiency (Phosphorus -redding older stems + browning of dry leaves) and Nitrogen- slow light green new growth) - the issues seem to be resolved, but the leaves are flaking almost. mostly referring to plant 2
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Leaves. Dropping off
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Mr_Weeds_Autos
Mr_Weeds_Autosanswered grow question 5 years ago
I would remove them, remember whatever damage that has been done due to a deficiency will stay that way ... Plus having dead leaves around can leave room to invite unwanted insects to your environment because they love to feed on the dying leaves.
Troy_McClure
Troy_McClurestarted grow question 5 years ago
soil ph is erratic fox farm ocean forest : pro-mix (3:1) - ph 6.3-6.8 run-off ph: plant 2: 4-6 plant 1: 5-6.8 watering / feed ph: 6.3-6.45 soil ph after water /feed: 5-7 soil ph when dry: 7.5-8 both plants treated 100% the same phosphorus deficiency / ph imbalance help please
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Leaves. Color - Yellow
Leaves. Color - Dark-brown
Plant. Stem - Red or purple
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JinksyGrows
JinksyGrowsanswered grow question 5 years ago
Hello there. PH mal-adjustment with, what looks like, a P/Cal deficiency. I also used Ocean Forest in my first grow because the pre-nutrient amended soil was attractive to me, but it kind of hurt more then it helped. Same as you, I ran into almost constant pH problems when using OC and it frustrated me endlessly (ended up using a neutral soil for the last 2 gallons for last pot up). Good news, I wouldn't panic over this too much. Changes need to made, probably some trial and error, but they will come back. Red/purple stems can be a symptom of P deficiency but I see your night temps are around 19 degrees Celsius and could this can also change the colors of your stems, laterals and leaf veins. Copper spotting does not look like splash back to me at all. I feel you're looking at a phosphorous and calcium deficiency. The uptake of these nutrients is optimal at 6.2 and with the current swings in your pH (and also work in conjunction with one another), I don't think the plant is taking much of it up. You can give it as much as you'd like, but she just may not be having it. Suggested solution: (Same thing I did to mitigate and remedy the same symptoms) Next feed (or two) I would simply "flush through" a good amount of pH balanced water @ 6.2-6.4. I would not recommend over-compensating and feeding anything about 6.6 as this may fix one problem while creating another (possible lockout of other essential nutrients). In these "flush throughs" I add my phosphorus blooming supplement with cal/mag (Usually 3/4 dose. Trust your gut, though). This way, you can properly flush out excess salts/nutrients/developing pathogens while not starving her of the P and Cal she desperately wants right now. After a couple consecutive flush throughs, you should notice the pH start to balance itself out. When you return to normal feeding (if pH is back in order) I would also suggest watching how much Nitrogen supplementation you give the ladies. Micro nutrients that work along side Nitrogen, like zinc, copper and iron, can interrupt the uptake of P and Cal/Sulfur and keep the soil mal-adjusted (uptake of these nutrients is around 5.5-5.7). OC medium is hard to gauge when it comes to Nitrogen. It's highly amended with these macro/micro nutrients and can certainly cause trouble. There are no hard answers to this question, but rather a roadmap to possible remedies over time. Your girls will be just fine. Just need a little tweaking!👍 I hope this helped my friend. If this is the answer you're looking for there is no need to "pick" it. Remove the question and keep it for another day😉 (Weird how there's a time frame limitation to questions...I don't understand why). Cheers and good luck, no matter what course of action you take!!✊
Troy_McClure
Troy_McClurestarted grow question 5 years ago
Harvest on Mar.7, any tips or tricks welcome. I plan on watering just 1.5 gal each on Mar. 4, turn off the lights for 36H Mar. 5 @7:00am-Mar.7 @6:45pm (15 min before lights on normally) I hope that the soil is dry for harvest. cut down small stems, hang, remove dead leaves, dry
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Mrs_Larimar
Mrs_Larimaranswered grow question 5 years ago
Hello, If you want to go with drytrimming you need a very good well areated place with a good tempeature and RH to let them dry ( for example on a clothes rack in your living room). If you dont have such a good place or dont want to use your living room😃. Then its better to cut in branches and get them a good wet trim, and hang them . In 95 percent i go with wet trimming. Its some work , but absolutely worth. And you can use the suagrleaves to do some butter, oil, shatter anything you like. I even keep fanleaves to make smoothies ( just pick them and freeze them to store) the ugliest leaves it put to my compost.. or into my wormfarm.. so i dont throw away anything. The stalk and branches get sheddered and go to compost too
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